tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13756280.post2995959346327121275..comments2024-02-08T03:44:23.780-08:00Comments on Jeremiah Grossman: In a cyber-war, we fight for economic well-beingJeremiah Grossmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05017778127841311186noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13756280.post-90639208713651851112010-06-28T03:57:18.641-07:002010-06-28T03:57:18.641-07:00It's a matter of degree. Just because we are d...It's a matter of degree. Just because we are dealing with livelihoods, not lives, does not mean we are not involved in a battle for the welfare of future generations.Rob Lewishttp://www.trustifier.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13756280.post-17973108410136499172010-06-26T15:44:15.278-07:002010-06-26T15:44:15.278-07:00@Dan, thanks for comment.
> "Industrial e...@Dan, thanks for comment.<br /><br />> "Industrial espionage is not "Cyber-war"."<br /><br />Let's break this down. "Industrial espionage," which I agree is age old, and in this case carried out over the network. So the word "cyber" suitable. <br /><br />When the industrial espionage is nation-state sponsored/supported/carried-out, targeting our people (and corps), on a mass scale, and puts the economy of our country at risk -- I have to say that sounds very war like to me (or cyber-war), but to each his own.<br /><br />Perhaps the cyber-war conflict needs to be escalated and made highly visible, on the US side. We risk much by doing nothing, not enough, and not calling it what it actually is. <br /><br />And just to be clear, I made no suggestion that the government should or could be of assistance to businesses. As president Ronald Reagan said, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"Jeremiah Grossmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05017778127841311186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13756280.post-13403926975546300102010-06-26T13:19:10.300-07:002010-06-26T13:19:10.300-07:00Industrial espionage is not "Cyber-war"....Industrial espionage is not "Cyber-war". <br /><br />If any of these companies thought that industrial espionage, which has been going on for thousands of years, would skip networks as a vector, they are confused to the point of negligence.<br /><br />There are, IMO, several problems with assigning the "war" moniker indiscriminately. <br /><br />First, when you convince the masses that we are "at war" with other nations because of actions well below the threshold of conflict, you risk the escalation of conflict.<br /><br />Second, if we are "at war" then we should expect the US government to protect us right? Do you really want the government generally involved in the day to day operations of your networks and companies? Not enough regulation for you yet? Do you really think that the government is measurably "better" then the private sector when it comes to security? I've been heavily involved on both sides of the fence and I can't think of an area where they are better equipped then the private sector.<br /><br />So, after 650 words, I think the message we are left with is, "Try Harder", which we already knew. :)Dannoreply@blogger.com